I have to read more of this also get better acquainted with your arguments before we speak, but the first thing that comes to mind is that philosophical reflection can involve a beyond of the question “should we or shouldn’t we” foreclose the incel from speaking , and talk about the many places you can’t have this identity, like professional settings and things like that. Then agency can be navigating these terrains with one’s position on it. Obviously there’s a lot of other things here, but one instance philosophically reflection is more like science than rhetoric.
There’s an aesthetic density to this, the combining of a hurt woman and women are hurting because there is no discourse of hurting women…it is kind of making an argument in favor of bringing the violent unconscious forward. A lot of reasons to do the opposite, but the main argument is one of authenticity or a desire for violence and the idea the world is cold without violence, and if you look at our entertainment, it is definitely true that people interpassively consume violence. I’d disagree with the idea you’re putting forward that there is a problem in the world that women secretly desire violent incel-adjacent discourse and this is an important cause, but the thing to this is that there is a consumption of violent, officially negative content that pulls us in. It’s not obvious how to relate to it, embody violent discourses for vitality? That’s a certain Trumpian or beyond Trumpian far right method for sure, also the left does that as well at times, but maybe it isn’t a good idea always!
But also if one meets a limit and doesn’t recognize it as a flaw in one’s own discourse but externalizes it, you get all sorts of ghouls and ghosts replacing the true cause of one’s own limit. But philosophy also says the mind is a thing that overcomes limits, so the paranoia is potentially also creative…but also potentially just paranoia. If it is entertaining and all just to get clicks and get a cult or whatever, then that matters less than if you were trying to unfold truth.
My 2010 vintage 750 SAT reading score was of more limited use than I would've liked here
I read the whole thing and here’s my takeaway “the actual source of eros which is genuine friction, real stakes, and deep asymmetry”
I have to read more of this also get better acquainted with your arguments before we speak, but the first thing that comes to mind is that philosophical reflection can involve a beyond of the question “should we or shouldn’t we” foreclose the incel from speaking , and talk about the many places you can’t have this identity, like professional settings and things like that. Then agency can be navigating these terrains with one’s position on it. Obviously there’s a lot of other things here, but one instance philosophically reflection is more like science than rhetoric.
There’s an aesthetic density to this, the combining of a hurt woman and women are hurting because there is no discourse of hurting women…it is kind of making an argument in favor of bringing the violent unconscious forward. A lot of reasons to do the opposite, but the main argument is one of authenticity or a desire for violence and the idea the world is cold without violence, and if you look at our entertainment, it is definitely true that people interpassively consume violence. I’d disagree with the idea you’re putting forward that there is a problem in the world that women secretly desire violent incel-adjacent discourse and this is an important cause, but the thing to this is that there is a consumption of violent, officially negative content that pulls us in. It’s not obvious how to relate to it, embody violent discourses for vitality? That’s a certain Trumpian or beyond Trumpian far right method for sure, also the left does that as well at times, but maybe it isn’t a good idea always!
But also if one meets a limit and doesn’t recognize it as a flaw in one’s own discourse but externalizes it, you get all sorts of ghouls and ghosts replacing the true cause of one’s own limit. But philosophy also says the mind is a thing that overcomes limits, so the paranoia is potentially also creative…but also potentially just paranoia. If it is entertaining and all just to get clicks and get a cult or whatever, then that matters less than if you were trying to unfold truth.