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A brief response to Roger and Elizabeth: I do agree that these labels can be unhelpful and imprisoning and often say more about the family/social environment than about the individual (in this sense, Laing & Cooper remain relevant in their discussion of schizophrenia, even if I would not agree with their broader conclusions about the family). As somebody who has been labelled "mad" and "abusive" and all kinds of other words for evil, particularly when I broke with progressive doctrines and spoke to people who had already been shunned, I am extremely sensitive to both labels and social ostracism. I am fully aware of the way "difficult" women in particular are labelled and always have been (in different ways). I have every sympathy for people who do not know how to behave well, because I am that person and in order not to be that person, I have to daily engage in all kinds of structures and restrictions and programmes. I agree with Elizabeth that "Enduring beauty is in moderation and wisdom, in having enough to eat, in prayer and reverence." It can, however, take some people an enormously long time to get there, and some people will never get there. I don't want difficult people to be shunned.

My attempt here - knowing that it would be unpopular - is to take up Walt's feeling that he is better-placed to handle someone who behaves in maladaptive ways than other people. In my experience, it is the case that some men can handle very difficult women, and they get something positive out of it. This seems to me to be a win-win situation, and also better for those people who suffer negatively when confronted by chaotic people, insofar as they are protected from them because there's someone who can handle them in between.

I also know of one woman who received a BPD diagnosis very early in her life for whom it was very helpful. She had years of DBT and group therapy and has since flourished in intellectual circles. The current implicit metaphysics of our age has put aside demon possession and replaced it with a therapeutic worldview, no doubt. I have seen how people who want to demonise me struggle to decide whether I am sick, mad, or evil. The same trilemma occurs whenever we think about addiction or antisocial behaviour, and we have not made up our collective mind. My over-riding feeling is one of love and sympathy for suffering, and that includes people who are hurt by others, those who hurt and those who denounce.

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Person Online's avatar

Romanticizing dysfunction is bad, actually.

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