People who know me IRL know that my defining autistic trait is that I sometimes insult people in unexpected ways. Those who know me well also know that it's never intentional. Typically it's when I'm trying to be funny but I'm pushing too hard and end up going way out of the line.
None of this is an excuse though, over the years I learned to take full responsibility for my autistic actions.
So yes, I do owe you an apology (and probably money). I'm sorry.
I don't consider you an actual grifter. All of this was just my very poor and autistic attempt at banter, a "men bond over fake insults" sort of thing. But I guess that thing only works in IRL, in small, private groups of tight-knit egalitarian hunter-gatherer-like groups of actual friends. It does not work in public and/or online - most people reading this might simply think they're actual insults. And insulting someone in public is not honorable. It doesn't matter if it's fake - what matters is that thousands of people will probably think it's not.
While I'm still not a fan of promoting sexual degeneracy online (which is also why I criticize WBE), I do greatly respect all other things you do here - the writing, the political activism, the community building. In our pod I mentioned that I sometimes consider Walt Bismarck as an alternative reality version of myself - someone I could have possibly become if the young, high IQ & high agency man I was in my early 20s didn't take the family man route. All of the things I could possibly build and do... Maybe this fuels some hidden envy or resentment which possibly led to this sort of thing.
Thank you, my man. It's genuinely very noble of you to say that.
tbh there's a huge part of me that's uncomplicatedly on your side re: degeneracy, bc I'm clearly a huge romantic by disposition and if anything have an embarrassing tendency to escalate far too quickly--note how in both Agency and Rakish I prematurely propose to basically any girl I sleep with so long as she's relatively high status.
I've gamed around that weakness in different ways over the years--by chasing BPD girls with the same sort of impulse, by securing asymmetric dynamics with working class women--and have had mixed results. Some of those relationships I just fucked up by being novelty-seeking or unstable and they might have lasted otherwise, who knows? But the overall issue is also at least partially systemic, hence the underlying subtext of Rakish and to some extent Agency that highly neurotic and open men seeking a compatible spirit are incentivized to *perform fuckboyism* even if they want marriage (at least they are in urban American ecologies--Poland is prob much better).
My intuition is that (at least for certain temperaments) this sort of performance is basically necessary to attract a decent wife who you'll actually respect and find interesting over the long haul. But idk this could also just be silly cope; the world is a complex place and every heuristic about social behavior is Myth downstream of one's personal echo chamber.
In any case thanks again for the kind words Piotr--genuinely honored to call you a friend.
Regarding "performing fuckboyism even if you want a wife: I don't think this is the case. It's just that the red pill/PUA stuff just works (when done right ofc) regards of what type of relationships with women you want.
Me and my wife hit it off together in our early 20s because I was quite possibly the first guy she met who was simultaneously decently attractive, intelligent and not low status (she and some of her friends EXCLUSIVELY dated STEM guys - they apparently considered it a leading in indicator of high status - very smart), her age (most girls don't want age gap relationships with older guys) and didn't treat her like a simp. But not being a simp requires prior experience with women, and if you missed out on sex and relationships in your teenage years, the only way to catch up fast is to suddenly become a fuckboy, possibly leveraging the red pill/PUA stuff.
Yesssss. A thing I eventually figured out after far longer than it should have taken me is that most people read stuff on the internet in the maximally pessimistic manner possible. By which I mean that anything anyone says will be read and interpreted in the worst possible light. Even if one is actively *going out of one's way* to be *deliberately polite* and / or helpful, folks will still read things one says as though one were advocating for raping kittens.
Wouldn’t getting people to donate to you and then giving the money back be fraud? Or something that violates substacks terms of use? I haven’t looked into it but you should. I get substack still gets a piece (so maybe in that case they wouldn’t mind?) but that might be something to watch out for
Alas, as one of your subs (I suppose I should eventually at some point reinstall Discord [blech] and check out Tortuga, no, I'm, not quite sure why Discord irks me so much either) there is nothing more I can really do for you for now. Though I will grant that I would find it hilarious to have an orange check (not that I actually pay enough attention to know what that means) without actually being a Substack writer, if that's even possible. 🤣🤣🤣
Though serious, it's just *amusing* so don't make any actual effort on that front, unless it would amuse you as well. Not knowing what that means, and not being arsed enough to go find out, if it's more complex than just doing something for the lulz, spend that on someone who will find it actually meaningful.
People who know me IRL know that my defining autistic trait is that I sometimes insult people in unexpected ways. Those who know me well also know that it's never intentional. Typically it's when I'm trying to be funny but I'm pushing too hard and end up going way out of the line.
None of this is an excuse though, over the years I learned to take full responsibility for my autistic actions.
So yes, I do owe you an apology (and probably money). I'm sorry.
I don't consider you an actual grifter. All of this was just my very poor and autistic attempt at banter, a "men bond over fake insults" sort of thing. But I guess that thing only works in IRL, in small, private groups of tight-knit egalitarian hunter-gatherer-like groups of actual friends. It does not work in public and/or online - most people reading this might simply think they're actual insults. And insulting someone in public is not honorable. It doesn't matter if it's fake - what matters is that thousands of people will probably think it's not.
While I'm still not a fan of promoting sexual degeneracy online (which is also why I criticize WBE), I do greatly respect all other things you do here - the writing, the political activism, the community building. In our pod I mentioned that I sometimes consider Walt Bismarck as an alternative reality version of myself - someone I could have possibly become if the young, high IQ & high agency man I was in my early 20s didn't take the family man route. All of the things I could possibly build and do... Maybe this fuels some hidden envy or resentment which possibly led to this sort of thing.
Again, I'm sorry.
Thank you, my man. It's genuinely very noble of you to say that.
tbh there's a huge part of me that's uncomplicatedly on your side re: degeneracy, bc I'm clearly a huge romantic by disposition and if anything have an embarrassing tendency to escalate far too quickly--note how in both Agency and Rakish I prematurely propose to basically any girl I sleep with so long as she's relatively high status.
I've gamed around that weakness in different ways over the years--by chasing BPD girls with the same sort of impulse, by securing asymmetric dynamics with working class women--and have had mixed results. Some of those relationships I just fucked up by being novelty-seeking or unstable and they might have lasted otherwise, who knows? But the overall issue is also at least partially systemic, hence the underlying subtext of Rakish and to some extent Agency that highly neurotic and open men seeking a compatible spirit are incentivized to *perform fuckboyism* even if they want marriage (at least they are in urban American ecologies--Poland is prob much better).
My intuition is that (at least for certain temperaments) this sort of performance is basically necessary to attract a decent wife who you'll actually respect and find interesting over the long haul. But idk this could also just be silly cope; the world is a complex place and every heuristic about social behavior is Myth downstream of one's personal echo chamber.
In any case thanks again for the kind words Piotr--genuinely honored to call you a friend.
Thanks Walt.
Regarding "performing fuckboyism even if you want a wife: I don't think this is the case. It's just that the red pill/PUA stuff just works (when done right ofc) regards of what type of relationships with women you want.
Me and my wife hit it off together in our early 20s because I was quite possibly the first guy she met who was simultaneously decently attractive, intelligent and not low status (she and some of her friends EXCLUSIVELY dated STEM guys - they apparently considered it a leading in indicator of high status - very smart), her age (most girls don't want age gap relationships with older guys) and didn't treat her like a simp. But not being a simp requires prior experience with women, and if you missed out on sex and relationships in your teenage years, the only way to catch up fast is to suddenly become a fuckboy, possibly leveraging the red pill/PUA stuff.
Yesssss. A thing I eventually figured out after far longer than it should have taken me is that most people read stuff on the internet in the maximally pessimistic manner possible. By which I mean that anything anyone says will be read and interpreted in the worst possible light. Even if one is actively *going out of one's way* to be *deliberately polite* and / or helpful, folks will still read things one says as though one were advocating for raping kittens.
It's exceedingly frustrating.
Compelling argument, I sent you the $50. I’ll only ask for it back if Musk lays me off
Wouldn’t getting people to donate to you and then giving the money back be fraud? Or something that violates substacks terms of use? I haven’t looked into it but you should. I get substack still gets a piece (so maybe in that case they wouldn’t mind?) but that might be something to watch out for
It's only fraud if you can prove it.
“I don’t feel too bad going 1939 on him.
Ya wohl!
Alas, as one of your subs (I suppose I should eventually at some point reinstall Discord [blech] and check out Tortuga, no, I'm, not quite sure why Discord irks me so much either) there is nothing more I can really do for you for now. Though I will grant that I would find it hilarious to have an orange check (not that I actually pay enough attention to know what that means) without actually being a Substack writer, if that's even possible. 🤣🤣🤣
Though serious, it's just *amusing* so don't make any actual effort on that front, unless it would amuse you as well. Not knowing what that means, and not being arsed enough to go find out, if it's more complex than just doing something for the lulz, spend that on someone who will find it actually meaningful.
tortuga is on telegram not discord if that matters
Ah, right. Fair enough. Another thing I'd have to reinstall, but at least not inherently incapable of being silenced.