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Imonhere's avatar

Alright, Walt, I had a slow start to life, but I'll teach myself this AI shit and make individual contracts and get rich by my mid-30s, since you and others keep making it sound like it's a thing that can be done. Why not? I'll live your late-20s (adjusted to me) in my mid-30s and have kids with a 27 yo when I'm 37.

I want to be able to travel and work from anywhere, and I'm sick of physical labor. It just takes some agency.

And I needed a kick in the pants about the way I try to plan a perfect system all the time. Best to be maneuverable and agentic rather than optimized but rigid and fragile.

sunshine moonlight's avatar

Is it bad that I spend so much money on clothes?

Walt Bismarck's avatar

that's fine specifically for asians

Kenneth's avatar

Solid advice but 90K a year at 23 is wild. For most fields that seems to be 3 years experience pay most guys just graduated at 23. 65K a year is a good college graduate starting salary. 200K by 30 is wild too. In my field (CPA) that salary is senior management to Director salary’s.

Are you talking to young men who graduate early and go to elite colleges? Maybe I should have became an Actuary instead of a CPA 😂

TK-2042's avatar

I make 90k at 23 with a state school engineering degree, the class average was ~80k if i renember correctly.

Kenneth's avatar

I am 30 so my starting salary ranges are probably 20K to 30K in the past although overall wages are very stagnant.

Compsci's avatar

I might add that changing jobs in your 20’s is acceptable to most future employers. Hopping for advancement is understandable. After 30, however, be careful.

Kenneth's avatar

I agree for mid thirties

Early thirties are barely mid level career points for alot of people.

30 is young

Compsci's avatar

Your point taken. I’m sure there are situational considerations. I’m just harking back to my days when hiring. I was much less concerned with younger staff than older when a saw a number of short lived positions on the resume submitted. On the other hand, I’ve known friends who’ve had 8 positions due to firms closing in Silicon Valley during the tech heyday. They didn’t leave the firm, the firm left them.

Justin M.'s avatar

The de-ranking of introspection seems shortsighted. Reminds me of Marc Andreessen the egg head going viral recently saying he never introspects. Of course, it can be a failure mode that gets stuck in a feedback loop, but I know what’s good for my type. Solitude, walking and introspection. Trying to make every action productive strikes me as a merchant morality. It’s more aligned with the extractors of value, rather than the generators of what is worth valuing. Those who don’t reflect on what they value and act out are insensitive to life itself as a form of art. They just eat, work and sleep without much of a care to what their habits shape in their own interior. The idea of saying people over a certain age shouldn’t do this will beget the death of the child-like overcoming of the camel and the lion. Though, considering your advice is directed at young men, who are typically looking to become a camel or a lion since they are already closer to the child in some respects, I understand the caveat.

TK-2042's avatar

Im a 23 yo engineer and everyday I walk by the construction workers at my apartmsnt and wish I was doing that instead of explaining spreadsheets to millenial redditoids and coping incel zoomers and listening to them talk about the newest japanese cartoons. Obv it makes less money but im not getting pussy anyways. Im also seriously considering officer candidate school, that might be a better idea. Im just tired of tolerating these faggots in my office

Top Shelf Theology's avatar

That's a pretty good list. Except that sudden onset of not being able to stay up late. If that DOESN'T happen by the time you're 35, put some effort into it or you end up an insomniac regular drinker like me into your 40s...

mrswisster's avatar

When were you at asu wtf, I graduated from there a couple years ago