The TaskRabbit thing brought back some memories lol. I used to work on TaskRabbit in NYC, and people were *always* hiring me to assemble IKEA furniture. It's something I'm good at and really enjoy, but people would be surprised when I showed up and they saw how small I was. It wasn't about being strong-- it was about following instructions and intuitively using physics to work smarter, not harder. Most of my clients were women who had just been through a breakup, so there was an emotional support "girl power" part of this job along with the actual furniture assembly, but it was also funny when it was a nerdy guy hiring me. The entire schtick was that I'm 5'2" and can assemble furniture flawlessly. I've also put together a bed from the 1820s, complete with holding it together with ropes that lace through the holes on the side. For some reason, that blew a lot of people's minds.
Yup! TaskRabbit is the agency type thing I used for that. I think ThumbTack also hires professional IKEA assembly people, and IKEA stores even have employees for that. If you’re in an area with a lot of rich people who don’t have time, it’s actually a really nice, steady gig to have. Definitely recommend it!
Good article. And you nailed it w the levelling platitudes. I am consciously aware that it is only partially true when I debunk a budding incel, but as you say they often are not uncovering these imbalances to any productive end. In fact I can see how destructive it is for some men. For example you point out the many status hierarchies men can pursue, but I often hear despondent young men who have only begun to try at life and women defining their status or lack thereof in a one dimensional sense : I don’t have x y z physique, or neurotypical mind, or money. As if a single factor like that precludes you from women, or that you are born statically unfit for women. Add in that if we promote marriage (and continue to not promote polygamy) the effects of womens’ hypergamy (a bit of a misunderstood concept that average IQ people should just continue to call ‘mate selection’ and leave it there before their heads hurt) is not very relevant to a guy claiming he can’t get laid. You are completely right, a certain intelligence AND maturity is necessary, otherwise such men descend into a violent black pill madness that benefits no one, particularly them. If for no other reason than women can smell the toxic conditional affection on them. It is in our evolutionary interest to sense and not sleep with men who secretly hate us.
>It is in our evolutionary interest to sense and not sleep with men who secretly hate us.
The prob is in practice this often selects for the guys who are most talented at lying / strategically deploying disingenuous high status signals, hence seemingly every girl these days having an ostensibly high status "narc ex". Hell I'm sure a few girls are calling me their narc ex right now. It's what happens when men figure out how to game around these rules and women later discover it was somewhat performative.
I'm not sure if there is a good or decent solution to this but I doubt we're putting the genie back in the bottle. But it seems to me hating the other sex is just sort of inevitable. Though if I were a woman I'd probably look for a dude who has integrated his hatred of women rather than rejected it wholesale.
As a women I find it frustrating when women fall for liars and I can’t fully explain this. Except that I spoke for all women earlier, when I know in actuality people have different evolutionary strategies, and in their case it may be to mate with a talented narc polygamist. But many of us can smell it like a dog smells fear - and I for one choose a husband who is in the middle ground. I find his brutally honest attitudes about women attractive. But he does not hate women. A balance exists. Perhaps that is what you mean by integrating the hatred. I certainly don’t hate men, and I give men little reason to hate me, so assuming this condition is, well an interesting take to me. Broadly this may resolve genetically : these narc exs are not meaningfully out-reproducing to the extent they used to - the fact they are exs means sometimes girls are just dating and moving on when before bc they may very well have been saddled with offspring already (or perhaps they wouldn’t have a narc relationship without bc - we are so many levels removed from normal or natural as you move to each younger generation.) More specifically try dating a women who is like you , not a prime victim of you - you might be leaning into the ying and yang too much. I laugh that my husbands favorite thing about me will continue to be my derrière and general looks - but it’s far from saying our mutual interests count for nothing. And I do not hate him for that because the DHA in my behind is used to feed our babies brains during breastfeeding, and my being fit means they won’t develop metabolic disorders early. Makes him a good father actually. Anyways just adding color from my side of the fence as I don’t outright disagree with what you’ve said.
I was expecting something like "they raise your heirs for you and laugh at your jokes and always have a tissue when you need one," but I guess this is fine too.
Of all the times I’ve gone looking for sympathy from women, including both my wife and my mother, I’ve obtained it perhaps 5-8% of the time. The vast majority of the time, I’ve gotten nagging, lectures, correction, moralizing, condescension, shaming, sarcasm, anger, disdain, or simple indifference.
It took half-faking a “nervous breakdown” (whatever that actually means) to coax genuine, unalloyed sympathy from my wife, and even then she was mostly giving me solutions, not sympathy.
I hold none of this against them, I am merely reporting anecdotal evidence to the contrary of “they always have a tissue when you need one.”
In my experience, no, women absolutely do not have a tissue for men, even men they allegedly love, who request it.
Hell, most of the time they don’t even know where the Kleenex box is after sex.
This is true. We feel repulsed by crying men. Unless your parent or child has died, men shouldn’t cry. Go to the garage, drink beer, put some loud white-boy music on; “Janey’s got a gun” type stuff. That’s how a man gets over feeling sorry for himself. We will make you a nice dinner. You’ll get a blowjob. But not if we have to treat you like a girlfriend after a bad breakup. Sorry!
For your last graph: If all men and women married 100% randomly, you would still see that white women marry white men the most. And it is simply due to demographics.
You need to adjust for population and maybe create some kind of Bernoulli model to correctly assess the loyalty to their race of each race of women. If you were a little tryhard, you would try to adjust for the average « diversity score » of the neighborhood each race of women live in. If you did all of that, I don’t we would get white women as the most racist or attracted to their own race.
Yeah basically per capita. But a true correct analysis would correct for how non-white a neighborhood is. If a white women lives in an 90% white area, she should not get « racist brownie points » for marrying a white man.
I remember having read an excellent and autistic article that tried to determine if blacks were simply more criminal or if they also have a tendency to target Asians and whites. This article included some kind of race% of neighborhood at some point and it was adjusted for that after adding an hypothesis or two. I think using the script that generated the graphs of this article but with marriage statistics instead of race crime statistics would give a definitive answer to the question.
What do you think the racial demographics of the US are? We're barely a white majority country anymore. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the shift didn't happen during the last census.
Interesting to note: White men/Black women military marriages are twice the rate of that of the civilian population. It would seem proximity and similar backgrounds matter.
White women are much more loyal to White men, then given credit for. I used to think White people forget one thing they do have more racial supremacist than any other race, more innately is attraction to each other. Blond hair blue eyes, the rest of humanity is basically all stuck with dark hair and brown eyes only. We are attractive people, with uniquely attractive traits. This is why in dating White men and White women are highly sought after. I remember some cope on X (Twitter) really, that it is only the money and financial advantage White men have that causes this. In reality Asian men make the most money, especially Indians. I am sure their are sadly some more White women pairing off with some Indian men due to this, but it is in no way a huge trend. The most desired beautiful White women still choose White men for marriage!!!
I am slightly disappointed that I'm not more offended after reading this.
The TaskRabbit thing brought back some memories lol. I used to work on TaskRabbit in NYC, and people were *always* hiring me to assemble IKEA furniture. It's something I'm good at and really enjoy, but people would be surprised when I showed up and they saw how small I was. It wasn't about being strong-- it was about following instructions and intuitively using physics to work smarter, not harder. Most of my clients were women who had just been through a breakup, so there was an emotional support "girl power" part of this job along with the actual furniture assembly, but it was also funny when it was a nerdy guy hiring me. The entire schtick was that I'm 5'2" and can assemble furniture flawlessly. I've also put together a bed from the 1820s, complete with holding it together with ropes that lace through the holes on the side. For some reason, that blew a lot of people's minds.
I absolutely love assembling IKEA furniture too. There's something very Zen about it.
You can get PAID to assemble ikea furniture?!
Yup! TaskRabbit is the agency type thing I used for that. I think ThumbTack also hires professional IKEA assembly people, and IKEA stores even have employees for that. If you’re in an area with a lot of rich people who don’t have time, it’s actually a really nice, steady gig to have. Definitely recommend it!
If Walt had died in the hurricane we never would have learned this esoteric knowledge
Good article. And you nailed it w the levelling platitudes. I am consciously aware that it is only partially true when I debunk a budding incel, but as you say they often are not uncovering these imbalances to any productive end. In fact I can see how destructive it is for some men. For example you point out the many status hierarchies men can pursue, but I often hear despondent young men who have only begun to try at life and women defining their status or lack thereof in a one dimensional sense : I don’t have x y z physique, or neurotypical mind, or money. As if a single factor like that precludes you from women, or that you are born statically unfit for women. Add in that if we promote marriage (and continue to not promote polygamy) the effects of womens’ hypergamy (a bit of a misunderstood concept that average IQ people should just continue to call ‘mate selection’ and leave it there before their heads hurt) is not very relevant to a guy claiming he can’t get laid. You are completely right, a certain intelligence AND maturity is necessary, otherwise such men descend into a violent black pill madness that benefits no one, particularly them. If for no other reason than women can smell the toxic conditional affection on them. It is in our evolutionary interest to sense and not sleep with men who secretly hate us.
>It is in our evolutionary interest to sense and not sleep with men who secretly hate us.
The prob is in practice this often selects for the guys who are most talented at lying / strategically deploying disingenuous high status signals, hence seemingly every girl these days having an ostensibly high status "narc ex". Hell I'm sure a few girls are calling me their narc ex right now. It's what happens when men figure out how to game around these rules and women later discover it was somewhat performative.
I'm not sure if there is a good or decent solution to this but I doubt we're putting the genie back in the bottle. But it seems to me hating the other sex is just sort of inevitable. Though if I were a woman I'd probably look for a dude who has integrated his hatred of women rather than rejected it wholesale.
As a women I find it frustrating when women fall for liars and I can’t fully explain this. Except that I spoke for all women earlier, when I know in actuality people have different evolutionary strategies, and in their case it may be to mate with a talented narc polygamist. But many of us can smell it like a dog smells fear - and I for one choose a husband who is in the middle ground. I find his brutally honest attitudes about women attractive. But he does not hate women. A balance exists. Perhaps that is what you mean by integrating the hatred. I certainly don’t hate men, and I give men little reason to hate me, so assuming this condition is, well an interesting take to me. Broadly this may resolve genetically : these narc exs are not meaningfully out-reproducing to the extent they used to - the fact they are exs means sometimes girls are just dating and moving on when before bc they may very well have been saddled with offspring already (or perhaps they wouldn’t have a narc relationship without bc - we are so many levels removed from normal or natural as you move to each younger generation.) More specifically try dating a women who is like you , not a prime victim of you - you might be leaning into the ying and yang too much. I laugh that my husbands favorite thing about me will continue to be my derrière and general looks - but it’s far from saying our mutual interests count for nothing. And I do not hate him for that because the DHA in my behind is used to feed our babies brains during breastfeeding, and my being fit means they won’t develop metabolic disorders early. Makes him a good father actually. Anyways just adding color from my side of the fence as I don’t outright disagree with what you’ve said.
I was expecting something like "they raise your heirs for you and laugh at your jokes and always have a tissue when you need one," but I guess this is fine too.
We overlap on the second one at least
Hit me up, I'll build a bed for you any time
Of all the times I’ve gone looking for sympathy from women, including both my wife and my mother, I’ve obtained it perhaps 5-8% of the time. The vast majority of the time, I’ve gotten nagging, lectures, correction, moralizing, condescension, shaming, sarcasm, anger, disdain, or simple indifference.
It took half-faking a “nervous breakdown” (whatever that actually means) to coax genuine, unalloyed sympathy from my wife, and even then she was mostly giving me solutions, not sympathy.
I hold none of this against them, I am merely reporting anecdotal evidence to the contrary of “they always have a tissue when you need one.”
In my experience, no, women absolutely do not have a tissue for men, even men they allegedly love, who request it.
Hell, most of the time they don’t even know where the Kleenex box is after sex.
This is true. We feel repulsed by crying men. Unless your parent or child has died, men shouldn’t cry. Go to the garage, drink beer, put some loud white-boy music on; “Janey’s got a gun” type stuff. That’s how a man gets over feeling sorry for himself. We will make you a nice dinner. You’ll get a blowjob. But not if we have to treat you like a girlfriend after a bad breakup. Sorry!
Great article, women are awesome
Beware. The Snake Bites.
For your last graph: If all men and women married 100% randomly, you would still see that white women marry white men the most. And it is simply due to demographics.
You need to adjust for population and maybe create some kind of Bernoulli model to correctly assess the loyalty to their race of each race of women. If you were a little tryhard, you would try to adjust for the average « diversity score » of the neighborhood each race of women live in. If you did all of that, I don’t we would get white women as the most racist or attracted to their own race.
per capita
Yeah basically per capita. But a true correct analysis would correct for how non-white a neighborhood is. If a white women lives in an 90% white area, she should not get « racist brownie points » for marrying a white man.
I remember having read an excellent and autistic article that tried to determine if blacks were simply more criminal or if they also have a tendency to target Asians and whites. This article included some kind of race% of neighborhood at some point and it was adjusted for that after adding an hypothesis or two. I think using the script that generated the graphs of this article but with marriage statistics instead of race crime statistics would give a definitive answer to the question.
What do you think the racial demographics of the US are? We're barely a white majority country anymore. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the shift didn't happen during the last census.
Interesting to note: White men/Black women military marriages are twice the rate of that of the civilian population. It would seem proximity and similar backgrounds matter.
Also, WM/BW marriages have the lowest divorce.
White women are much more loyal to White men, then given credit for. I used to think White people forget one thing they do have more racial supremacist than any other race, more innately is attraction to each other. Blond hair blue eyes, the rest of humanity is basically all stuck with dark hair and brown eyes only. We are attractive people, with uniquely attractive traits. This is why in dating White men and White women are highly sought after. I remember some cope on X (Twitter) really, that it is only the money and financial advantage White men have that causes this. In reality Asian men make the most money, especially Indians. I am sure their are sadly some more White women pairing off with some Indian men due to this, but it is in no way a huge trend. The most desired beautiful White women still choose White men for marriage!!!
"A few months ago my bed frame collapsed"
LOL indeed!