On this episode of Radio Tortuga I speak with the brilliant
, who writes here on Substack at The Norme.Norman is an American Nationalist who joined me on WRP several months ago to talk about the Post Alt Right and litigate some reservations I’ve developed with the white identity movement over the past few years.
Today he returns to discuss his recent article The Follies of Fedjacketing, which describes how nationalist movements can avoid institutionally disastrous paranoia over the possibility of federal infiltration.
We also discuss the future of American Nationalism, the Christian vs. Pagan divide, temperamental tensions in the movement between ruralites and urbanites, and the long-term viability of monogamy given soaring rates of inceldom.
Also Nick Fuentes.
Topics include:
The dangers of “fedjacketing” (the practice of spreading suspicion that other people in nationalist movements are Federal Agents)
Types of feds and how to deal with them:
Rabble-Rousers (encourage illegal or dangerous activity)
Wallflowers (take notes and spy)
Saboteurs (screw things up)
False Leader (direct organizations in unproductive directions)
Inherent problems of leading any organization (but especially fringe movements)
The story of Blood Tribe and Boneface
People who were socially marginalized or edge cases themselves are overly empathetic toward flagrantly dysfunctional people
When assessing any leader you always need to take the bad with the good
Narcissism is helpful for resisting the incredible stress of leadership
The classic story of the Sword of Damocles
The difficulty of leading a big tent movement without a concrete goal
Why religious infighting is more common today than in 2016-2017
It’s a huge problem when high quality people code as suspicious
Fedjacketing provides cover for ankle biting
Are alphabet soup agencies less competent these days?
The efficacy of street action vs. semi-covert parallel power structures
Tenability of targeted vs. untargeted street action
Is wearing a mask to anonymize your protest bad aesthetics?
Should rightists adopt softer and less threatening branding?
Why Walt used Disney for his propaganda
Conservatives in general aren’t as good at marketing as liberals
The Right values rhetorical “directness” too much
Manstein and Fabius understood oblique tactics
Too many nationalists stupidly oppose making money and call it Jewish
It’s much harder to find a good wife if you don’t move to a dense area
Cities as “IQ Shredders”
Dimwits vs. Midwits vs. Bigwits and their respective pros and cons
100 is the average IQ because in many circumstances iteration and tradition are actually more functional than innovation
Chesterton’s Fence and its viability in an increasingly volatile environment
Necessity of high openness European peoples to interface with “the wilderness”
Integration of foreign peoples vs. cultural interchange
Robust systems can tolerate exceptions on the margins
Salami slicing and purity spiraling are both dysfunctional
Heritage Americans and other groups as “castle and a moat”
People on the margins of Whiteness are usually more pro-White than extremely Nordic peoples who live in isolated homogeneous areas
Walt’s desire for White people to be Gondorians instead of sheltered Hobbits
Sheltering your kids just makes degeneracy a “forbidden fruit”
Rumspringa as a vital cultural technology for the Amish
Americans racial issues mostly stem from blackpepo
Heritage Americans vs. Ellis Islanders
Multiculturalism promotes both cultural energy and civic instability
How Classical Rome balanced ethnic chauvinism with multiculturalism
Adding pineapples vs. pickles to your Angel Food Cake
The long term viability of monogamy given the skyrocketing incel rates
The civilizational value of sublimated libidinal energy
Monogamy as vector for long term investment
Will incels ever actually revolt despite being pacified by porn and weed and massively lower testosterone levels?
Can the rapidly increasing power of dopamine traps ever be contained like more stable types of vices like liquor and opium have been in the past?
Technological advancement permits greater decadence
Will AGI create a Wall-E society?
The Crisis of Competence (Crowdstrike, the Trump assassination attempt)
Post-Scarcity is making everyone lazy and retarded
Civilization necessarily has to end in Wall-E or collapse
Walt argues trads should directionally prefer mistresses to hookup culture
Should we go back to extended families? Do traditionalists *actually* want finger-wagging aunties coming back?
Will anyone ever voluntarily give up their dopamine fix?
When formulating policy should you attribute human action more to personal choice or the surrounding incentive structures?
You can punish monsters without blaming or hating them
When mobs dehumanize people like Weinstein as “monsters” that provides cover for more normal people who overwhelmingly do the most harm
Oftentimes it’s impossible to actually save people at the bottom of society
Gambling and prostitution are necessary outlets for capturing the risk-taking and libidinal energy of high status guys
Can Fuentes unify the dissident right into a viable big tent WN 3.0?
Why is Traditional Catholicism a somewhat viable “cover” for far right beliefs?
Do the Jesuits secretly control the world?
JD Vance and Hillbilly Elegy
Is Vance a strong heir to MAGA? Or will the energy of Trumpism get dispersed?
Need to build long term power now so we can make a play once the field is open
Federal Agents, Nationalist Aesthetics, and Monogamy