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Natalia Bower - Consent and the Cornell Seven
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Natalia Bower - Consent and the Cornell Seven

Walt Right Perspectives #164

On today’s episode of Walt Right Perspectives I speak with Natalia Bower—a doctoral student in Philosophy who recently wrote a hugely viral essay on the Cornell Seven:

Natalia Bower
Regret Rape Is Wrong Enough
Consent orthodoxy has reduced the ethics of sex to a single question: was there consent? If yes, the act falls within sexual autonomy and is therefore fine. If no, it is rape, a violation of someone’s humanity, and every instance is equally grave, because the person who did not consent had no control over what might happen to them. What actually did hap…
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She later followed it up with an excellent treatise on sexual essentialism:

Natalia Bower
The Sexual Double Standard We Need
In the weeks since the Cornell case became public, several writers have argued that consent is not enough to judge whether sex was ethical. The psychologist Sharon Lamb calls for an ethic of care; Yona Sperling-Milber, in the Harvard Crimson, for respect for the whole person. I agree. But these proposals share a blind spot, and to see it we have to look…
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I strongly encourage all dedicated Waltheads to read both of the above pieces.


Topics include:

  • Does Natalia think women have sexual agency?

  • Can women meaningfully consent to sex with a high status and physically imposing man behind closed doors?

  • Why consent-status is often underdetermined at the point of coitus

  • Why women who make “false rape accusations” don’t experience it as lying

  • Why Natalia thinks men bear more responsibility in sexual situations

  • The difference between consent and submission

  • If men bear greater responsibility in the moment due to greater physical power, do women bear greater moral responsibility thereafter due to their own greater post-hoc narrative power?

  • Is it possible for anyone to be “honest” about interpersonal situations?

  • Why the female understanding of consent often feels arbitrary to men

  • Yes Nos vs. No Nos vs. Convince Me Nos

  • Capture as an inherent facet of heterosexuality

  • How men and women are differently manipulative when it comes to understanding and discussing consent

  • Patriarchy as a mechanism for mate guarding vs. managing female agency

  • Walter argues that moral responsibility without institutional power precipitates Hirschman-exit and that this is presently occurring in Zoomer men

  • The Infinite White Knight Fleet-in-Being as a source of female narrative power

  • Walt argues women radically underestimate their reputational danger to men

  • Female post-hoc repricing

  • Do men and women reprice exes in different directions?

  • Are We Dating The Same Guy groups as a scarlet letter mechanism

  • Gossip apps don’t have neutral adjudication mechanisms and women tend to automatically interpret men’s desire for such a mechanism in bad faith

  • The impact of young women now outearning young men on the dating market and public epistemics

  • Men are the first ones to enforce female reputational sanction for status and favor and this lets women blame men for enforcing it

  • The negative status valence for men of defending the Cornell Seven

  • How valuable is female interpretive authority as a power currency?

  • The separate male and female desires for rape qua rape

  • How erotic game theory ensures you don’t hear stories about women chastising men for not being dominant enough

  • How female sociosexuality and her male partner’s status influence her later classification of his sexually aggressive behavior

  • Do we need certain illusions to keep heterosexuality functional?

  • Do men and women know too much about each other?

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